The McCain-Bush Ticket
I’ve never truly cared much for McCain, though I did admire some of his stances (campaign finance reform and his rejection of the hardline, Christian Conservative Right – alas, of late, he has cozied up to that bigoted and intolerant crew). He was able to reach out across the aisle and work with the Dems for the greater good. And he seemed, once upon a time, to be in league with the common man.
But he’s certainly betrayed the common man now with his switch on the Bush tax cuts. Now the man who once fought those tax cuts because they favored the wealthy over the middle class, the man who also once clearly stated we had no business implementing tax cuts until we knew what the Iraq War would cost us – has changed his tune. McCain more and more is stepping in tune with the used-up, washed-out, ineffective and tawdry ways of the Bush administration. All this to get elected.
Maybe it’s a good thing. Maybe McCain is setting himself up now for a loss by embracing the Bush economic idiocy.
One can only hope.
But he’s certainly betrayed the common man now with his switch on the Bush tax cuts. Now the man who once fought those tax cuts because they favored the wealthy over the middle class, the man who also once clearly stated we had no business implementing tax cuts until we knew what the Iraq War would cost us – has changed his tune. McCain more and more is stepping in tune with the used-up, washed-out, ineffective and tawdry ways of the Bush administration. All this to get elected.
Maybe it’s a good thing. Maybe McCain is setting himself up now for a loss by embracing the Bush economic idiocy.
One can only hope.
posted by Bird | 9:22 AM
22 Comments:
i wouldn't worry. seriously bird. its going to be the demoncrats for eight. one way or another.
mccains a major hothead too. for the reasons you like him, i dont!! grrrrrrherhahaha
another election with NO ONE to vote for.
i'm not so sure about that she.
i think, regardless of whether you think mc cain is the one or not, our country is, deep down, still too racist and mysongynistic (my spelling is terrible) to elect a black man or a woman - even if either of those were absolutely PERFECT (which of course, is impossible anyway).
if mc cain had opposed campaign finance reform, been an ally to Pat Roberton & a fan of Bob Jones U - and was explicitly and implicity against working-class and middle-class folks - you'd like him? is that really what you're saying, she? i suspect you have other reasons... And i don't LIKE him - i admire one or two of his positions - or did. and i do respect the service he has given his country. haha - now if he was a dem, i'm sure someone on the repub side would swift boat him and somehow, somehow, say he was in league with the North Vietnamese - he did, afterall, sign a confession at one point in his captivity.
i dont agree at all! thats a harsh indictment of 'merica boydie. i would LOVE to elect a black man: thomas sowell, herman cain (whom i campaigned for in ATL) walter williams...people like that.
i think it is the left that tends to view things through a filter of race and gender. at thursday nexts blogs any one who wasnt pro-hillary was accused of being anti woman! its insane.
look at who lobbed the race card at obama - it was the clintons. look at demoncratic cabinets and compare them to conservative admin's. i will let that speak for itself.
you called it right boyed, it wasnt about not voting for the tax cuts. i dont like McCain for his, and W's for that matter, sneaky amnesty bill. also, i dont think McCain Feingold helped with the process of elections one bit...everyone just found some work arounds. the electoral process would be far better if the taxpayers funded each candidate with a finite amount of equal money to do campaigns. then we wouldnt get millionaires or entrenched politicians. part of obamas appeal is his freshness - and newness to the game. he isnt tainted yet.
McCain has been savaged by uber conservatives and he didnt get a pass cause he was a tortured POW, although he did get respect along the same lines as what you give.
i think Obama is a totally likable and sincere man. i wont vote for him because i dont like his world view and more specifically his view of what government should be. but then again, W turned into a spending monster. your grandchildren will never get out from under the massive debt we'll leave them. its so wrong it turns my stomach.
yup - it is a harsh indictment. and i wish i didn't believe it.
although i do think both the race and gender card are lobbied at obama and clinton, i cannot say that all criticism of each is based on those cards. there are plenty of legitimate things to question about each - and criticism of their plans and record is legit. and vital.
i often think our whole system is just one big mess. i blame us all - lefties, righties, middle-roaders, the media, the politicians - we have all contributed to this mess.
You gotta wonder who benefits from the in-fighting, name-calling, cat-scratching fights.
It seems that anytime someone comes up with a reasonably sensible approach requiring cooperation, the labels and dirty tricks come out in full force.
What's a body to do?
I for one will listen to my inner voice and vote for the one who resonates well with that voice.
At the moment, Obama is leading the pack. He is the only one with sense enough and is leading from the strength of love from his soul core.
As Lennon said, "All we need is love." A bit naive, but good advice.
Who knows what tomorrow will bring?
Hi Jack,
Nice to see you. I disagree with you and Lennon. Love is not enough. My experience bears that out - and so too do my observations of others. Love doesn't feed, house, clothe, nor education a kid. Love cannot solve our economical and environmental problems.A person can have all the love possible in his heart - but not have the means to help.
Love is powerful, but it is also fragile and vulnerable.
Of course, I'm all for love - but I'm also all for compassion, wisdom, intellect, and know-how. Those ingredients are key. If you have that, you just might get by without love (though you may feel a great emptiness in your soul) - but you cannot get by on just love alone. it isn't enough - it simply won't do.
after all we are living in a material world.
grrrrrrrherherhahahahaha!
i add to jack that Obama IS by far the classiest of them all. (it's not hard, though)
hey boyed
made a bird like postie
maybe you will come check it
it's prose-ish
The maverick in me wants to vote for Huckabee!!!!!
But Obama will ensure some initial chaos when in office, i like that too.
my friend is going for mccain and here's why:
"White guys rule the world, in matters of world finance and domination.
So far the white guys in office have kept us from getting bombed because they speak white man power language and already have their thumbs in the pie.
Having a chick or a brother in office would upset the whole white guys rule, and may spell disaster for the saftey of the usa."
interesting take huh?
Ohh, Boydie, go rent the movie IDIOCRACY
it's good for a sad laugh.
To have great government and strong democracy you need a great opposition.
From a lefties point of view I was watching with interest the Republicans so you could judge how good the opposition would be.
It is a shame, if as you say, McCain is going down this path.
(OH and by the way what the heck is;
"..white guys in office have kept us from getting bombed?"
You're being bombed in Iraq and Afghanistan, Sept 11 and on and on...about time to think differently about the world.
Nothing, nothing is ever helped by killing and bombing, no matter what...geesh!)
indeed, McCain had (past tense) some admirable qualities... the rational among us should never forgive Republicants for picking Bush over him in '00!
McCain has changed a lot... on taxes... on religion... one could even say he has FLIP-FLOPPED...
wasn't he in Vietnam? shouldn't he be swiftboated about now?
bogs,isn't flip-flopping a "liberal" device? LMAO
bird, when taken literally, Lennon is a bit far out. We do have to start somewhere.
However, when starting from a love base, you tend to figure out less harmful ways to resolve problems-the worlds or where your next meal come from.
Just a thought.
Campaign Finance "Reform" was both blatantly unconstitutional and moronic. Your comment about McCain's nuanced position on the Highly Effective Tax Decreases enacted in 2001 is typical.
Typical of a brain-dead slogan-chanting sheepling of the traitor-democrat party-of-filth. And very typical of the sheepling mindset that can't grasp that the world is dynamic.
Yes, call them the "Bush Tax Cuts for the Rich". Chant that slogan!
It's now 2008. Can you grasp that fact? Ending those tax-cuts means a Tax INCREASE. Can you grasp that simple truth? A tax INCREASE during an economic slow-down.
Perhaps you'd care to cite a reputable Economist of ANY political bent who will say that a Tax INCREASE during a slow-down is a good idea. Perhaps you'd like to cite a single time in US History when a Tax INCREASE during an economic slowdown has proven effective.
Clue : Robert Reich isn't really an "Economist" he just played one during the Clinton Regime. He's a lawyer.
2008. 2008. 2008. McCain had his reasons in 2001 to vote against the Tax Cuts. 2001. 2001. 2001.
It's now 2008. Believe it or not, the world is dynamic and the situation has changed. McCain recognizes that fact as do all people who have a clue how the Economy Works.
Dear Troll,
Name-calling is not tolerated on this blog. Occasional slip ups are overlooked, but your comment is a diatribe of pejorative names that add absolutly nothing of value to the discussion.
Second, if you are so passionate about the issue - support your claims with facts please - you really don't give any. You provide some very generalizes statements littered with negative attacks. Convince us not with propaganda techniques, but with a well-reasoned argument that respects the audience.
everybody uses "swiftboating" like it was a lie. the media treated it like it was a lie but they couldnt disprove it. john kerry was a terrible candidate.
she - While I agree that Kerry was a terrible candidate (though frankly, at that point in time, anyone would have been better than Bush and that 51 percent of the American voters re-elected Bush is appalling - considering the extent of his lies and actions which undermined and degraded some of the very basic principles of our country as enshrined in our Constitution), the Swift Boat veterans ran attack ads against Kerry which were deceptive and included information that was, indeed, false. They misrepresented Kerry's comments, put them completely out of context.
The Swift Boaters accused Kerry of attacking his fellow veterans. They claimed that Kerry’s recounting of what many Vietnam Vets had stated at a gathering of Vietnam Veterans in Detroit was untrue. The Swift Boaters implied that Kerry had said he himself saw the atrocities he recounted - but it was quite clear in Kerry's comments that he was not claiming he saw such atrocities; rather, that he was repeating what other vets had told him. And numerous public, historical accounts support Kerry’s reiteration of those soldier’s comments. We do indeed know that many of our soldiers committed atrocities in Vietnam.
The Swift Boaters also claimed that Kerry didn’t deserve his medals. They had no proof for this claim. Y
The irony of their attack is, of course, that they claimed Kerry was attacking veterans (when he was not). In actuality, the Swift Boaters attacked a veteran.
See: http://www.factcheck.org/article244.html
This is not the only source of info which supports my claims. BUt factcheck.org is a reliable organization. Yes, indeed, it is run out of what some consider the liberal Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania. But if you follow their work, it’s quite easy to see that they favor no political party or candidate.
infini my dear - so nice to see you. and i will flap by shortly to check out your latest posts. but dear - really, huckabee? the man who would like to bend our constitution to conform with god's will? uh, separation of church and state? uh, whose god, anyway? whose interpretation of god's will?
There were no lies in any of the Swiftboat Ads. They never said that Kerry personally witnessed the atrocities. They merely played the tape of Kerry listing them. And pointed out the FACT that tapes of Kerry's speech were used in brutal interrogations of POWs.
As for the medal dispute, it would be impossible to provide proof positive short of videotape. ALL SIX other swiftboat commanders and their crews stated that they heard no rifle fire. Kerry and ONE of his minions stated that there was rifle fire.
Do you believe that the 94 men who didn't hear rifle fire formed a right-wing conspiracy in 1974 in case Kerry decided to run for President in 2004?
Because it was 1974 when the questions involving Kerry's embellishing his Action Report were first raised.
I am with She - Dems for the next eight. And I believe it will be Obama...amen.
They merely played the tape of Kerry listing them you say Troll?
They did so out of context, with deception - using a propaganda technique known as "card-stacking" in which the propagandist deceives by slanting and selecting the "facts" and creating a cloud of suspicion. The propagandist can then sit back and say, oh I never said THAT. No indeed, but he/she/they certainly set it up, purposefully, so an unwitting dupe can infer exactly what the propagandists wants the dupe to infer. Unwitting folk swallow such stuff whole,without much thought.
Card-stacking can also include out and out lying, i.e., Bush and his rationales for war in Iraq. Why that man hasn't been impeached is beyond me - he's done more harm to this country than Nixon ever did. Nixon at least did some solid work while in office - made some gains. Bush has just trashed the place, like the thoughtless, egocentric frat boy he is.
Thursday Next:
I hope we do have eight years of a Dem...I am still torn between Obama and Clinton, though I did cast my lot with Obama in the primary. I think Clinton is more experienced and sharper in some ways. Obama is sharp, ambitious, and is certainly inspirational. Of course, they don't differ too much on the issues.
But I'm sure the Dems will find a way (and perhaps they already have) of shooting themselves in the foot. Even though the Repubs seem a bit ... not as together as usual, they seem to always find a way to get their way. By hook or crook.
Not to say that McCain is a crook - and while I'm on my soapbox - this bullshit crap about his affiar or whatever with a lobbyist long ago - who gives a fuck? Unless of course, he was bought off by the lobby she represented. But that doesn't seem to be the focus, the focus seems to be that he might have had sex with her.
What horse-shit.
Will we ever get over this Puritanical, holier-than-thou attitude about sex?
Everybody fucks.
My apologies for name-calling - Bush can really bring out the worst in me. My apologies to frat boys everywhere.
at the website "on the issues" you can see categorized every statement, every vote on a given topic. theres not a huge difference between the 3 of them. no joke.
whatever. im all over my rosetta stone latin american spanish. mr she wants to move home to chile. i smell adventure!!
stop by the yard when ya can - i want you to see my bluesmen.
The oddest thing is occurring here....
First and foremost, how can ANYBODY still think the two party system is the best? All it has done is polarize this nation.
Second, if you give the Gore Studies on Global Warming any credibility then you'll also realize that whoever gets to be president this time is going to take a terrible hit in the economy unless some drastic measures are taken. (I don't have but a couple few, and I'm sure that there isn't any sweeping answers to the problem)
McCain WAS a great choice before Bush junior. However, now, he is a lame continuation of the same old crap. (T'ain't cursin' if'n it's true)
The only thing I have against Clinton is that she's ready to ensnare us all into FORCED capitalism ...as in mandatory health care. I suspect she's getting a pretty penny from the insurance companies for that business.
Kind'a reminds me of when Elizabeth Dole was the transportation chief....
The car manufacturers, insurance companies, and a bunch of morons made the seatbelt laws reality.
Amazingly, the laws have not saved a single life since the inception.
Wearing seatbelts HAVE helped some, but, not all.
But, the point was, it had nothing to do with public safety and everything to do with creating a political money basket from pacs.
Like that moron, Anslinger. Actually made marijuana illegal in most of the world without any debate, medical reasonning, or mandate from the public. All to save his lame little agency, which closed up shop, anyway.
Wait a minute....have I gotten off track?
Well, sort of.
I reckon to see Obama as president because a great change IS going to sweep us all off our feet and he seems as competent to deal with change as those others.
As for Hucklebee... anybody that thinks that the bible is the word of God shouldn't be president.
Don't get me wrong. I believe in a CREATOR and Jesus, though I also think that there have been hundreds of "virgin" births and we're all brothers and sisters and should help each other, but this business of waging war and occupation on a foreign country because of their sociol/political ideologies is wrong.
The best day this country will see is the end of Bush junior's reign of terror next January....
Unless, of course, after the Democrats win, he declares himself executive high chief muckamuck and claims dictatorship over the country.
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